The Essence of A.A.

The Essence of A.A.

"Whenever, wherever, one alcoholic meets another alcoholic and sees in that person first and foremost not that he or she male or female, or black or white, or Christian, Buddhist, Jew, or Atheist, gay or straight, or whatever, but sees..that he or she is alcoholic and that therefore both of them need each other - there will be not only an Alcoholics Anonymous, but there will be the Alcoholics Anonymous that you and I love so much and respect so deeply.".......Ernie Kurtz in Not God: A History of Alcoholics Page 305

A.A.'s Greatest Danger

A.A.'s Greatest Danger.

"If you were to ask me what is the greatest danger facing A.A. today, I would have to answer: the growing rigidity -- the increasing demand for absolute answers to nit-picking questions; pressure for G.S.O. to 'enforce' our Traditions; screening alcoholics at closed meetings; prohibiting non-Conference-approved literature, i.e., 'banning books'; laying more and more rules on groups and members.".....Bob Pearson .....AA's Greatest Danger - Rigidity

Wednesday, July 28

Common Questions to an Atheist in AA

Note: This post was originally titled "Ask an Atheist". That day is gone and it's now "Common Questions to an Atheist in AA". Originally published on July, 21, 2021

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It's National Ask an Atheist Day. So, use the the comments and Ask an Atheist in AA. I'll try to respond in a timely manner.

First a few very common questions;

Yes, I do have a Higher Power. As Jim B . put it;

For the new agnostic or atheist just coming in, I will try to give very briefly my milestones in recovery...
1. The first power I found greater than myself was John Barleycorn.
2. The AA Fellowship became my Higher Power for the first two years.
3. Gradually, I came to believe that God and Good were synonymous and were found in all of us.
4. And I found that by meditating and trying to tune in on my better self for guidance and answers, I became more comfortable and steady.
Jim B
Sober For Thirty Years
A.A. Grapevine, May 1968


My HP resides in the essence of Number 4. It's me. My conscience. My knowledge and sense of right and wrong. Most of us have one. Some don't. That's unfortunate.

The key is the tuning-in part. Listening. And putting desire in it's proper place. Always second. Right and desired is great. Right and undesired is to suck it up and do it anyway. Wrong, either desired or not, is to be abandoned.

That brings us to; Do I pray?

Yes, I do. Only I call it "Talking to myself". And answering. Sometimes an entire conversion might take place. When Alan Shepard, sitting in the Mercury 7 and about to become the first American in space, uttered his Prayer, he wasn't talking to God. he was talking to himself. And he listened to himself. And he didn't. I can do no less.

How can I follow the Steps without God?

 I do. Only not exactly the ones written in the BB. Remember, those are suggestions. Every secular member of AA ends up modifying them in some way as to eliminate the God aspect. Many have written them down (See Here and Here). the removal of God, HP, or some other controlling supernatural force, doesn't matter. It's the results that matter.   
 
 
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4 comments:

Anonymous said...

There's no denying #4's universal relevance.

The topic of "God" being so often challenging with newcomers.

- Mark

Atheist Ed said...

Yes it is. But it can be overcome. It's why I use Atheist Ed. To show the Newbie that they're not alone. And this can work without a God in the picture.

Incidentally, Catholics had all that confession stuff down long ago. I mean Confession fits #4 to a tee. Wonder if Bill W realized it was pretty much a routine thing for practicing Catholics..

Unknown said...

Why does "atheist" translate to "antagonist" to anyone with a supernatural bent? Why as an atheist am I afraid to be vocal for fear of bringing shame to my family who claim to believe in nonsense? And when asked to discuss it, put their hands over their ears like thee "hear no evil" monkey?

Anonymous said...

Because some people have truly seen miracles from god